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No misquote Lane, just a succint summary of Gerry's belief in the book that explains the trip wire as a device to accelerate the clubhead:

Here is the full enchilada:

In the chapter "More About Levers" (p 87-88), Gerry writes: "The slower and more controlled the descent of the arms-hands unit toward impact, the more easily they can be decelerated to stop in the impact zone to allow the clubhead to catch and pass them, thus achieving maximum acceleration at the moment of impact. Conversely, the faster the arms at impact, the slower the clubhead. This ought to convince any golfer of the folloy of swiping with the arms and slashing with the hands."

Direct quote, with my emphasis added.

Do you agree with this?

Cy wrote:


Absolutely....thats why I teach my students everything they need to know to build and own their own swing with their own style and flair and hopefully allow them to become their own best teacher and eliminate myself from the process in good time.

I never had a coach until I was 26 years old....up until that point I had played in a major PGA event on my 15th birthday, won my State Amateur twice, The New Zealand Amateur, played for Australia, won in my 3rd event as a pro , been Aust PGA rookie of year , won an Australian Masters and had come 2nd and 4th on the Australian Order of Merit and played on every PGA Tour of the world.......
some can do it on there own....MOST or 99% of the golfing world cant do it themselves.....they need assistance and lots of it..... but there is no substitute for work....and if you are going to work you have to work on the right things

I don't have a clue why I was good as a youngster without instruction...but I will say this much...I didn't fall out of the womb a good golfer.
When I started playing I couldn't break 100 and had a handicap of 29....but I worked and worked.... I would hit my practice bag of 100 balls on the range...with almost every club in my bag on a given day...wedge all the way thru to woods....probably close to 1000 balls a day at times.
I even slept on the range in a tent a few nights to wake up at crack of dawn and do it all again.... on the days I wasnt beating balls I would go and play 54 holes....walking all the way to get the true golf experience.

I just find it amusing that people believe people are natural...or they can just do it..... it is work, work, work, and it comes quicker when you work on the right things...

Here are some pics of me when I was 14.....look pretty good....did I have a clue what I was doing?... I dont know?....but I worked, and I watched and I copied what the best were doing....not what they were saying...but what I saw they were doing with their swings
I found what I now try teach people early on through hard work and watching the ball flight and keeping the good stuff and eliminating the stuff that didn't work. I know the feels V real stuff and myself and Lag designed a way we can teach these feels so people wont have to guess...and can work the proper golf muscles needed to make the swing function all in the privacy of your own home....because most people dont have the time to go smack balls for hours due to life commitments.

Instruction killed what I was doing because what I got told was based on a theory from a book...not from the real life experience of playing and working it out and being able to understand every little nuance that can and does creep into the golf swing. I learned the hard way from listening to stuff that my instructor couldnt do but believed the swing was. I was never the same player again from trying to hit spots in the swing instead of making the spots look right from dynamic physical workings of the motion....vapour trail stuff where the look became a result of something else..and not a goal...which is what I did as a youngster
That is why I believe you cant teach what you can't do....I know that sounds harsh when put in those tones....but we all have a choice to make and have to decide what we teach ourselves or what someone else tries to teach us is accountable for....in any situation on any day and how well we can learn it, train it and be able to keep it without having to switch feels and thoughts daily to try find it again.

It seems you guys are much too smart for me to debate. It seems the difference in our thoughts are--
You are of the mindset that the hands provide the speed and power and the hit . If the clubhead is travelling at , let's say , 100 MPH at impact- are the hands travelling 100 MPH , or are they slowing down? Are the hands slowing down when we swing an axe ? There is certainly no intention too. When we crack a whip ?

I'll get back with you on this .

Lane

Cy, the original question to Lane was:

Do you share Gerry's belief that the slowing of the hands CAUSES the acceleration of the clubhead?

Mass IS important ie heavier clubs can generate more speed.

Gaining speed and velocity through a pivot driven action doesn't have to mean less distance, but it does take hard work.