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TOPIC: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret

Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46371

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I am in Orlando at the PGA Show with Nventix( Nunchuk ).

Mr Holt,

Thank you .....BUT your at the PGA show?

I am too envious to talk to you anymore. ;)
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46380

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Lane Holt wrote:
Ok- Green Lies,

Here is your Masters degree in educating the body to TURN. Stand up erect and extend your right arm out in front of you with palm facing upwards. Now rotate that right hand around to the right parallel to the ground as far as you are able to. Did your torso rotate ? I bet it did.
There - you have learned how to turn your body/ torso. You are now an expert at it.

Regards,

Lane

Lane, we all learned that in kindergarten. :lol:
Did you learn that move from Gerry H.?
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46382

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Don' t be envious. I hit balls yesterday in 75 degree sunshine. It was brutal.

Check out this website NVentix.com . Look at the demo by Bryan Nicholson taken at Nike . You will learn more about shafts than you ever thought.

Lane
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46383

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Lane Holt wrote:

New technology - the flex is where it should be , NOT IN THE TIP LIKE OTHERS.

Lane

It's the Indian, not the Arrow!
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46388

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See-- you learned this as a child. You had just forgotten it. You have known all these years. I only wish that you had shared your knowledge with me.

Regards,

Lane
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46390

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There you have it-- all the details summed up in just 6 words of wisdom,
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Lane
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46672

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It seems as though the great ball striker , Mike Austin, had a few tricks up his sleeves too, just like Hogan and Mitchell. B)



Love that pivot too!





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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46710

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The Secret is in the DIrt people! The ground for the feet, and the dirt for the strike.. Duh!

:woohoo: :silly: :woohoo:
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46746

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Eric Hamlin wrote:
The Secret is in the DIrt people! The ground for the feet, and the dirt for the strike.. Duh!

:woohoo: :silly: :woohoo:


Eric,

I must agree, the Secret is in the Dirt, and welcome to it. B)

BTW, I like the forward press in your swing. :cheer:

Good Luck and Keep Diggin, in the Dirt , that is. :whistle:

Mark, 1lovegolf24
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46754

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GreenLies wrote:
It's the Indian, not the Arrow!
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get your hairdresser to cut your hair with a broken beer bottle instead of scissors next time....report back, let us know how it went for ya.
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46773

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vinny wrote:
GreenLies wrote:
It's the Indian, not the Arrow!
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get your hairdresser to cut your hair with a broken beer bottle instead of scissors next time....report back, let us know how it went for ya.

Alright you think, it is the Arrow, not the Indian!

OK Vinny, give a $1000 scissors made from the finest German steel and gold to your wife and ask her to cut your hair! ;)
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46809

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Vinny, GreenLies,


I prefer to cut my own hair :laugh: I always play better with a fresh cut, that's my Secret.:huh:


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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46810

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I prefer to cut my own hair I always play better with a fresh cut, that's my Secret.

Mark,

Molsons or Coors light? :laugh:
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46812

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Linda,

Molsons will do, but Coors light works every time. Especially if your a do it yourself kinda guy B)


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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46814

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GreenLies wrote:
vinny wrote:
GreenLies wrote:
It's the Indian, not the Arrow!
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get your hairdresser to cut your hair with a broken beer bottle instead of scissors next time....report back, let us know how it went for ya.

Alright you think, it is the Arrow, not the Indian!

OK Vinny, give a $1000 scissors made from the finest German steel and gold to your wife and ask her to cut your hair! ;)

;)
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46839

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1lovegolf24 wrote:
Linda,

Molsons will do, but Coors light works every time. Especially if your a do it yourself kinda guy B)


Mark, 1lovegolf24

Coors light???

"Taste the savings." ;)

Microbreweries all the way for me. Left Hand Milkstout and Boulevard Wheat Ale are recent favorites.
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46841

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Timothy Goynes wrote:
1lovegolf24 wrote:
Linda,

Molsons will do, but Coors light works every time. Especially if your a do it yourself kinda guy B)


Mark, 1lovegolf24

Coors light???

"Taste the savings." ;)

Microbreweries all the way for me. Left Hand Milkstout and Boulevard Wheat Ale are recent favorites.


Well Timothy,

I like your style.

However, for me,and before that, it was 20 yrs of Bud, when savings was not an issue nor calories ;) .

Why,

Because ,

"This is the famous budweiser beer. We know of no other brand, produced by any other brewer which cost so much to age and brew. It's excluxive beechwood aging produces a smoothness, a taste, a drinkability you will find in no other beer, at any price."

If I remember correctly B) and of course that is when I could afford a real hair cut. :)

High and tight!

Mark, 1lovegolf24
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46846

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They don't call Budweiser the King Of Beers for nothing. ;)
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46877

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Forget the beer.

I bet one could get a little taken off from the blade of this club?





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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46878

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Scoops the finish..
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46879

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Phil McCraken wrote:
Scoops the finish..



Phil,

Do you know what year that was?

BTW, I'll take 3 scoops of whatever flavor he was serving witht he right hand/hands B)

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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46924

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Just thinking?





I like how he correctly orientates the club to similate an axe swing.

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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46927

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I like how he correctly orientates the club to simulate an axe swing.

Mark,

I like how you get to Level Left at 35 seconds.

Appears that way to me: elbows, hips and shoulders parallel and 90 deg to spine, and clubface.. sorry axe head is not released. Isnt that Ben Hogan?
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46929

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linda richman wrote:
I like how he correctly orientates the club to simulate an axe swing.

Mark,

I like how you get to Level Left at 35 seconds.

Appears that way to me: elbows, hips and shoulders parallel and 90 deg to spine, and clubface.. sorry axe head is not released. Isnt that Ben Hogan?


linda richman,

Respectfully, there is a release, but it all depends on what you think you are releasing and at what angles they are actually released on..

What is it that you believe was inprisoned in the first place? Lag, wrist cock? Illusions , if you ask me.

This is a big reason I have spent so much time on the condition of the wrists and role of the hands. This is where all the power is managed and released, IMHO.

I am far from figuring or solving any mystery or secret, but I believe the answers are exactly where Hogan found his.

Thanks

Mark, 1lovegolf24
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Re: Hogan's "Ultimate" Secret 1 year 2 months ago #46931

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Respectfully, there is a release, but it all depends on what you think you are releasing and at what angles they are actually released on..

Mark

I was referring to the Dan Whittaker/Ben Hogan video posted in The Observatory.

Never heard , Level Left before...I like it, seems something concrete we can measure ourselves against.

Whittaker defines release of the clubface, when left hand /wrist goes into extension.
Ben Hogan didnt release until near finish of his swing.

Level left results in maximum power and control, and as per Whittaker.
Suits my paradigm of body turn squaring the clubface.

When you penetrated the first log and stuck the axe into the second one, there is no way you released in Whittakers terms. The log , with axe head stuck to it, would have to be carried on around and above you to a high albeit dangerous finish.

Your just a level left kind of axe swinger, Mark.
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